A reader of the blog has just provided me with this link to a story
in Mail Online asking me if I was aware that a connection to Denbigh has
emerged regarding the Jeremy Thorpe and Norman Scott case http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4371716/Jeremy-Thorpe-DID-send-hitman-kill-says-ex-lover.html
I remember this case very well – I was a teenager living in west Somerset when the allegation that Jeremy Thorpe had tried to have Norman Scott killed was first made. Jeremy Thorpe’s first Court appearance was in Minehead and it was the most exciting thing that had happened in west Somerset for years. The eventual hearing was at the Old Bailey and readers might remember that although Jeremy Thorpe was found not guilty, allegations of corruption in high places never went away. Norman Scott was living on Exmoor at the time and I can remember local people all believing that Jeremy’s mates would have another go at killing him. Furthermore I knew someone who knew Norman Scott who maintained that he had seen compromising photos of Norman and Jeremy confirming that they did have the sexual relationship that Thorpe always denied. Norman featured in the media from time to time feeling very sore at having been trashed by the famously biased judge at the trial – well he needn’t have worried, the whole of the west country believed what he was saying about Jeremy and his dreadful mates.
The Mail Online is running an interview with Norman, in which he claims that two people, one a former detective, were recently going to be charged with conspiracy to murder him, but the charges have suddenly been dropped and a load of papers have ‘gone missing’ (sounds like those medical records of mine demonstrating corruption in legal and medical circles and at the Welsh Office). Norman has also claimed that Jeremy had tried to smear one of Norman’s friends, alleging that he was running a ‘vice-ring’ and Mail Online have published a letter from Jeremy Thorpe to Harold Wilson, in which this allegation is made. Jeremy gives the former address of this man in the letter – it is in Denbigh, that is why the reader has sent me a link to the story. The letter is dated 1976. So assuming that the man accused of running the vice-ring had left Denbigh a few years previously, which would give him time to have moved to London and occupy the more recent address that Thorpe supplies for him, that still places him in Denbigh in the 70s – during the period of T. Gwynne Williams and Dafydd Alun Jones’s reign of terror and of course during the period when sexual assault and abuse of vulnerable people en masse was alleged to have been happening in north Wales and when dissenters were banged up in Denbigh with no questions asked, sometimes dying within or else only emerging into the outside world again decades later when Denbigh was closed down. Yes there were still prisoners in there as recently as that. When I was in Denbigh during the winter of 1986/87, a nurse cheerily told me that Denbigh used to house many unmarried mothers – and the last one of them had died in Denbigh a few months previously.
So everyone knew that in 1985 there was still someone in Denbigh who had been put in there decades before for having a child out of wedlock. No-one questioned this. Furthermore the nurse who told me this as an ‘interesting bit of history’, also told me that before she died, she’d taken this old lady on a day trip to Rhyl and for the first time ever she tried an ice-cream and saw a zebra crossing. She had obviously never left the institution until the 1980s. Dafydd and Gwynne knew about that. Another interesting comment that Dr X from the Hergest Unit once let slip during the process of Denbigh closing down was that there was a ‘problem’ because Dafydd had ‘hidden away’ a few ‘difficult’ patients in there and no-one knew where they were going to go once Denbigh was shut. Perhaps Peter Higson, the Chair of the Betsi, would like to tell us all exactly who these patients who Dafydd had concealed in Denbigh were, why they had been secreted there and what happened to them – because Peter is the man who boasts on his CV that he oversaw the closure of the North Wales Hospital. What did you do with them Peter? Oh and another thing – the other day I was reading one of Dr David Crossley’s laughable publications regarding the history of psychosurgery at Denbigh – written whilst David was working there himself – and I noticed that not only did David not mention the name of Gwynne the lobotomist (well Gwynne was embarrassingly recent history wasn’t he), but David claimed that there was ‘one person who died during surgery’. These operations were being carried out IN DENBIGH – in a room that was later used as a store room – by Gwynne Williams and nurses ‘trained in psychosurgery at Denbigh’. ONE DEATH? Don’t make me laugh David, that bunch of butchers will have killed loads of people. WHERE ARE THE BODIES BURIED?
One very entertaining sequel to Jeremy Thorpe’s acquittal in the face of much evidence that he was indeed guilty, was Peter Cook’s performance at The Secret Policeman’s Ball, during which he dressed up as a High Court Judge and performed a truly wonderful satire of a corrupt, biased judge bending over backwards to acquit someone who had attempted to murder someone else. It contained many memorable lines, including some hurling abuse at the alleged hitman that ended with the judge stating that the hitman was ‘someone unable to carry out a simple murder plot without cocking the whole thing up’.
Four years ago I gave the Welsh Govt nearly all the information that I have published on this blog – I also cc’d most of this information to Kirsty Williams and Leanne Wood, in their capacity as opposition leaders. I also wrote many, many e mails to the GMC informing them as to what had been going on. Peter Cook’s biased batty old corrupt judge reminded me so much of His Honour Huw Morgan Gruffydd Daniel when he presided over my ‘trial’, that I also enjoyed myself by attaching the You Tube clip of Peter Cook performing his sketch to my e mails. Since I wrote those e mails, I have acquired even more documentation demonstrating that the institutional corruption in medicine and law was even more serious than I knew at that time. In the same way that nearly all the witnesses who claimed to have been abused by the north Wales paedophile ring have been found dead in questionable circumstances, nearly everyone I know who had the Gwynne and Dafydd experience at Denbigh is now dead. It will be obvious from this blog that I’ve had a few close shaves myself over the last thirty years – including being left with no care for years on end when I was suicidal and seriously depressed, having someone stuff half a bonfire through my letterbox, being prescribed a combination of drugs by Richard Tranter which would have killed me if I’d actually taken them, experiencing cars being driven carelessly in my direction and being regularly contacted by a friend of Dafydd’s who is now serving a prison sentence for attempted double murder (please see blog post ‘A Very Bad PR Man’).
Thankfully, with respect to me, it would seem that there are a number of people in north Wales who are unable to carry out a simple murder plot without cocking the whole thing up.
http://www.drsallybaker.com/uncategorized/jeremy-thorpe-norman-scott-and-the-denbigh-connection/
I remember this case very well – I was a teenager living in west Somerset when the allegation that Jeremy Thorpe had tried to have Norman Scott killed was first made. Jeremy Thorpe’s first Court appearance was in Minehead and it was the most exciting thing that had happened in west Somerset for years. The eventual hearing was at the Old Bailey and readers might remember that although Jeremy Thorpe was found not guilty, allegations of corruption in high places never went away. Norman Scott was living on Exmoor at the time and I can remember local people all believing that Jeremy’s mates would have another go at killing him. Furthermore I knew someone who knew Norman Scott who maintained that he had seen compromising photos of Norman and Jeremy confirming that they did have the sexual relationship that Thorpe always denied. Norman featured in the media from time to time feeling very sore at having been trashed by the famously biased judge at the trial – well he needn’t have worried, the whole of the west country believed what he was saying about Jeremy and his dreadful mates.
The Mail Online is running an interview with Norman, in which he claims that two people, one a former detective, were recently going to be charged with conspiracy to murder him, but the charges have suddenly been dropped and a load of papers have ‘gone missing’ (sounds like those medical records of mine demonstrating corruption in legal and medical circles and at the Welsh Office). Norman has also claimed that Jeremy had tried to smear one of Norman’s friends, alleging that he was running a ‘vice-ring’ and Mail Online have published a letter from Jeremy Thorpe to Harold Wilson, in which this allegation is made. Jeremy gives the former address of this man in the letter – it is in Denbigh, that is why the reader has sent me a link to the story. The letter is dated 1976. So assuming that the man accused of running the vice-ring had left Denbigh a few years previously, which would give him time to have moved to London and occupy the more recent address that Thorpe supplies for him, that still places him in Denbigh in the 70s – during the period of T. Gwynne Williams and Dafydd Alun Jones’s reign of terror and of course during the period when sexual assault and abuse of vulnerable people en masse was alleged to have been happening in north Wales and when dissenters were banged up in Denbigh with no questions asked, sometimes dying within or else only emerging into the outside world again decades later when Denbigh was closed down. Yes there were still prisoners in there as recently as that. When I was in Denbigh during the winter of 1986/87, a nurse cheerily told me that Denbigh used to house many unmarried mothers – and the last one of them had died in Denbigh a few months previously.
So everyone knew that in 1985 there was still someone in Denbigh who had been put in there decades before for having a child out of wedlock. No-one questioned this. Furthermore the nurse who told me this as an ‘interesting bit of history’, also told me that before she died, she’d taken this old lady on a day trip to Rhyl and for the first time ever she tried an ice-cream and saw a zebra crossing. She had obviously never left the institution until the 1980s. Dafydd and Gwynne knew about that. Another interesting comment that Dr X from the Hergest Unit once let slip during the process of Denbigh closing down was that there was a ‘problem’ because Dafydd had ‘hidden away’ a few ‘difficult’ patients in there and no-one knew where they were going to go once Denbigh was shut. Perhaps Peter Higson, the Chair of the Betsi, would like to tell us all exactly who these patients who Dafydd had concealed in Denbigh were, why they had been secreted there and what happened to them – because Peter is the man who boasts on his CV that he oversaw the closure of the North Wales Hospital. What did you do with them Peter? Oh and another thing – the other day I was reading one of Dr David Crossley’s laughable publications regarding the history of psychosurgery at Denbigh – written whilst David was working there himself – and I noticed that not only did David not mention the name of Gwynne the lobotomist (well Gwynne was embarrassingly recent history wasn’t he), but David claimed that there was ‘one person who died during surgery’. These operations were being carried out IN DENBIGH – in a room that was later used as a store room – by Gwynne Williams and nurses ‘trained in psychosurgery at Denbigh’. ONE DEATH? Don’t make me laugh David, that bunch of butchers will have killed loads of people. WHERE ARE THE BODIES BURIED?
One very entertaining sequel to Jeremy Thorpe’s acquittal in the face of much evidence that he was indeed guilty, was Peter Cook’s performance at The Secret Policeman’s Ball, during which he dressed up as a High Court Judge and performed a truly wonderful satire of a corrupt, biased judge bending over backwards to acquit someone who had attempted to murder someone else. It contained many memorable lines, including some hurling abuse at the alleged hitman that ended with the judge stating that the hitman was ‘someone unable to carry out a simple murder plot without cocking the whole thing up’.
Four years ago I gave the Welsh Govt nearly all the information that I have published on this blog – I also cc’d most of this information to Kirsty Williams and Leanne Wood, in their capacity as opposition leaders. I also wrote many, many e mails to the GMC informing them as to what had been going on. Peter Cook’s biased batty old corrupt judge reminded me so much of His Honour Huw Morgan Gruffydd Daniel when he presided over my ‘trial’, that I also enjoyed myself by attaching the You Tube clip of Peter Cook performing his sketch to my e mails. Since I wrote those e mails, I have acquired even more documentation demonstrating that the institutional corruption in medicine and law was even more serious than I knew at that time. In the same way that nearly all the witnesses who claimed to have been abused by the north Wales paedophile ring have been found dead in questionable circumstances, nearly everyone I know who had the Gwynne and Dafydd experience at Denbigh is now dead. It will be obvious from this blog that I’ve had a few close shaves myself over the last thirty years – including being left with no care for years on end when I was suicidal and seriously depressed, having someone stuff half a bonfire through my letterbox, being prescribed a combination of drugs by Richard Tranter which would have killed me if I’d actually taken them, experiencing cars being driven carelessly in my direction and being regularly contacted by a friend of Dafydd’s who is now serving a prison sentence for attempted double murder (please see blog post ‘A Very Bad PR Man’).
Thankfully, with respect to me, it would seem that there are a number of people in north Wales who are unable to carry out a simple murder plot without cocking the whole thing up.
http://www.drsallybaker.com/uncategorized/jeremy-thorpe-norman-scott-and-the-denbigh-connection/
